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  • DaynaHester 2:17 pm on May 12, 2011 Permalink | Reply  

    Excerpts 

    Hello everyone ….

    It’s been a long journey but I’m still traveling it with as much stamina as I had when I started. I will be sending everyone an updated blog soon on exactly how I arrived here (and my novel “Speaking Truths”). I will finish my original dedication to this blog, which was to give an account of a self-published author fighting her way to publish what many have said, “Is a good story.” If you take a look at my website — http://www.DaynaHester.com — you’ll see I’ve im the process of setting up all the promotional aspects of marketing a book. As I ramp up my blog again, if you have any questions as to what’s been going on in the last several months, please email me or ask the questions here!

    But meanwhile, here’s a couple of excerpts from the novel … you can check it out on Amazon, BN.com and bookstores!

    Excerpt from Chapter 1 …

    It had been three days since I showed up to English class. I hated school. I never fit in. Everyone stared at me like they’re better than me. Maybe they were; I don’t know. The kids were getting their folders out of their backpacks, which I forgot to bring. I leaned over to the cheerleader chick next to me to ask for a pencil, but that’s when the teacher, Mr. Sanders, walked up with a slip of paper. “Landon, I’m sorry, but the office needs to see you.” He put the paper in front of me on my desk. He was lying. It didn’t say to go to the office. It was a hall pass to go see the guidance counselor.

    “That’s messed up. What the hell?” I bashed my fist against the desk.

    Sanders leaned into me like what he had to say was just between us. “If you want to talk about it, let’s go outside.” There was a time when I thought he was cool. It was the first day of school. I learned on the second day that he was just another nerdy prick with leather loafers and khakis. That wasn’t my style. My style was baggy jeans and a hoodie pulled down over my I-don’t-give-a-fuck green eyes.

    I looked around the class. Everyone was staring at me. Frozen. Mouths open with their jawbones unhinged. I had been in school with most of the kids since eighth grade because the hellhole village I lived in was so small that they crammed middle school and high school into the same building. I pulled my hoodie back to look Mr. Sanders in the eye. “No way. I came to class to fix things. You said I could make up my missed work.”

    “Go to the office and see if they’ll help you, Landon. It’s not up to me anymore.” He was just looking for excuses. He wanted me out of his class.

    The stupid, “Yes, Mommy and Daddy” kids just sat there with their blank faces like they’d never done anything wrong, especially the fat-ass slob who sat behind me. I turned my head to look at him. What are you looking at?”

    “Nothing.” He jerked his head back so quick it made his double chin double again in size. I wanted to make a stupid joke, but then I got pissed off even more when I saw him look up, over my head, to Mr. Sanders. It was a coward move, like he needed a savior or something. That’s what you found in Nebraska: cowards.

    The more I looked around at everyone, the more I started thinking about how I knew they talked about me when I wasn’t in class. I could tell I was gonna lose my cool, and I didn’t care. I was sick of how they all thought they were so much better than me. When my eyes came back to the fat kid behind me, he was still looking up at the teacher. I leaned into him and dropped my voice. “Does your dad know what a coward you are?” That’s when I felt Mr. Sanders’s creepy pedophile hand grip my shoulder. “Landon, please. Don’t disrupt the class.”

    I turned around. His bushy unibrow was right in my face. I jerked my shoulder away. “Get your hands off me. I’m done with this shit anyway.” I tried to stand but my leg hit the desktop. It’s not like I’m super-tall: barely six feet. I lost my balance and almost fell to the ground. That’s when the pig-snout kid snickered like he’s all that. My anger exploded. All I remember is flipping my desk over, grabbing a book, and ripping the pages out.

    Why can’t people understand me?

     
  • DaynaHester 9:49 am on March 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Outside the Box Thinking Inside My Community 

    I used to be a court stenographer (…still can be if my book completely flops, by the way). The beauty of that career was I had to learn how to listen: I listened for a living.
     
    I’m seven years out of the career now, but I can still sense my listening skills kicking in, especially when someone gives me advice that I don’t need. My little voice yells out to me, tell the advice-giver, “I don’t need to hear this crap,” but I stop the thought … and listen. I think to myself, after all, if the advice doesn’t apply to me, it may apply to you.
     
    Advice from a Barnes & Noble manager:
     
    1) Is your book’s ISBN registered with Bowker? First, make sure you understand that Barnes & Noble is not the same as Barnes & Noble dot com (bn.com). It’s easy to get your book on bn.com but you cannot be placed into the Barnes & Noble store catalogue/database unless you are registered with Bowker. I’ll give a hypothetical so you understand the distinction. Assume you told your neighbor that your book is on sale at the Barnes & Noble website and based on that statement, your neighbor assumes that he can walk into a Barnes & Noble store and ask the clerk to order your book — if you’re not registered with Bowker, that clerk will not have your book in the data system and will respond to your neighbor something along the lines, “Are you sure you know the title?” “Could you have the author’s name wrong?” “Are you sure your neighbor really published a book?” … or more likely, “No, that title isn’t in our system. Sorry, can’t help you buy that book.”
     
    2) Most books that comes into the bookstore receive a discount sticker in the upper right-hand corner approximately the size of one inch wide by one and a half inch tall. Make sure your title will not be obstructed by this sticker.
     
    3) If you use an initial in your name in the place of your first name – J.K. Rowlings (but of course we’re not J.K. Rowlings, people) – think about doing away with it. If a potential purchaser doesn’t remember the initial, doesn’t see the initial, doesn’t think of an initial as representing the first name … it lessens the chances that the store clerk will be able to do an effective search for the title.
     
    4) Is your name font clear, visible and placed on the cover so that a potential buyer sees it, but yet it doesn’t compete with the title (unless of course your Dan Brown or James Patterson).
     
    5) Don’t write silly things on the front like a blurb saying “This is the first book written by,” and then your name with three initials, last name ”Smith.”
     
    My advice based on outside-the-box thinking:
     
    Based on my meeting with the Barnes & Noble manager, it is the case that some managers of Barnes & Nobles bookstores and Borders have the “pull” to recommend a book to other stores as well as “push” for the shelving of your book in all stores. How a manager determines this is based on how many sales of the book takes place in their store. Hold that thought.
     
    Now, because you’re self-publishing, remember that you are in control. You can make decisions in the blink of an eye. As an example, my storyline involves the identification of a person based on fingerprinting. Several weeks ago, I was driving down the street, saw a sign for a fingerprinting service, with a copy of my manuscript in hand, I walked in and said, “Hey, I talk about a fingerprinting company in my book. Would you guys like to read my book and if you like the context of how I use the fingerprinting services, could I insert your actual name?” 
     
    The thinking is that it’s advertisement for them and creates an opportunity for discussion about my book and their company in the local area (I’m also asking them to be quoted on the back of the book). In your case, could it be a local restaurant, grocery store, jewelry store, sandwich shop, hardware store, gym … any place that will help push people to your book signing, push people to talk about what’s in the book. It also gives a second reason for your local paper or community flier to mention your book … Think of it this way (calm the ego down): “My local paper/community flier may find it more interesting to talk about the local restaurant mentioned in the book and indirectly, my book will get attention.” 
     
    In addition, when you’re running your errands around town, are you looking around at the different places that stock books? Pharmacies? Grocery stores? Coffee houses? In other words, use to your advantage the phrase “local author.” Ask your community to help you, a member of that community.   
     
    Now back to the Barnes & Noble manager recommending your book. What if you could turn your local book signing into a community event? One of two things will happen. Either you will meet and greet those around you and your book will stay in your community. Or, you’ve created a platform that may just allow your book to “take off.”
     
    • Moe 11:39 am on March 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Great advice. I know I often use my initials and I know a number of writers in my writing group that use their initials.

    • Alain Miles 2:41 pm on March 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Looking for sales channels beyond the bookstore is a great insight for the indie writer. When you think this way, it helps to focus web marketing efforts too – maybe our potential readers would never even think of walking into a bookstore.

    • Edward G. Talbot 5:36 pm on March 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Great tips. A question about Bowker – when would an American author have an ISBN and NOT have it registered with Bowker? According to Bowker’s web site, “Bowker is exclusively responsible for the assignment of the ISBN prefix to those publishers with a residence or office in the U.S.” So if you have a U.S. ISBN, it came from Bowker one way or another. Does he mean that in addition to obtaining a block of ISBN’s from Bowker (or a single ISBN from a publisher/printer), you have to separately register the title/ISBN?

  • DaynaHester 10:28 am on February 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Wholesale Discounts, Returnability, and Good Friends 

    Thinking about self-publishing?   

    Before you consult, ponder the prospects … or heaven forbid, contractually engage a small press, print-on-demand (POD) or self-publishing company, first and foremost, educate yourself on the necessity of wholesale discounts and “returnability.”

    • Wholesale discounts determine, in theory, how much profit a bookstore can make from the sale of your book. Example: you have a book that you set the retail price at $20 (btw, ask if you can set the retail price). The wholesale discount that you offer a bookstore is 40% (this is an expected discount the bookstores want) – forty percent of twenty is $12 (the bookstore’s wholesale purchase price). Purchasing the book for $12 gives them “wiggle room” to determine the retail price in their store.
    • Returnability simply means that if a bookstore buys your book to shelf and your book doesn’t sell, the bookstore wants to be able to return the book and be refunded all or a portion of the purchase price.

    I believe these are more than fair business practices so as to request that bookstores take the risk on us … after all, no one here is James Patterson or Dan Brown. Although, these authors offer wholesale discounts as well, but of course due to simple supply and demand models, I’m sure it’s significantly less than 40% … or, the 50% that I’m working towards offering as a first-time novelist.

    The foregoing was background info on how traditional publishing works, as well.

    Now ask… why wouldn’t all POD and self-publishing companies automatically follow this model? Wouldn’t it be in their best interest to allow us to create a wholesale discount and returnability model that all bookstores would find appealing?

    To answer this, explore how you think the self-publishing companies see us, the self-publishers. We are not … on the front lines together, people. These companies are NOT our best friends, the saviors of our unrecognized talents. No … they are companies that are out to make profits (which is fair) but some of them “bank” on the assumption that you do NOT have a commercially viable product.

    Take for example the following scenario:

    I have a dear friend who is a great writer. She wrote a novel and went with a self-publishing/POD company that took NO FEES to publish her book. When she got her book in hand (looks great, btw!) and set out contacting bookstores … PROBLEM - her publishing company WILL NOT offer returnability and/or competitive wholesale discounts.    

    You may ask … isn’t this dumb business sense?

    No, it’s brilliant for the self-publishing/small press/POD companies that base their business models on the estimated success (or lack thereof) of vanity press writers, which is … on average, we will sell 200 copies (mostly, if not all, to family and friends). Work through the math: assume an author sells only 100 copies of their book at $20 each. The book costs the publishing company $5.00 to POD. The publisher pays the author’s royalty (a tiered structure starting at 8%) on a net sale of book at $15 (Twenty dollars minus five dollars to POD leaves $15 net costs. Then subtract eight percent royalty ($1.20) off the fifteen dollars. It leaves the publishing company a profit of $13.80 per book. Times this figure by 100 books sold and it leaves a conservative profit of $1,380 per author that uses the company’s FREE publishing service.

    From a business sense, looking for solid profitability projections, it is in the publishing company’s best interest – the company you’re in bed with linked by an intimate story your wrote – to not offer returnabilty and wholesale discounts and force YOU to buy YOUR OWN books.

    (My friend … she’s figuring out ways to fix this. Updates soon to come.)

    Meanwhile, please learn to weed out publishing companies (POD, small press or self) that are not in our best interest by asking informative questions:

    Will my book have returnability? If no, can you, the self-publishing company, think of ways I can offer bookstores returnability? Help me brainstorm to make my book a commercial success.

    Will I be able to set my own retail price? What is the formula for setting the retail price?

    What will be my wholesale discount? Is there any way to increase the discount so I am more appealing to bookstores?

    If a distributor is distributing my product, why can’t I dictate to the distributor what the wholesale discount will be?

    How would it work if I wanted to sell my book on consignment? Will consignment purchases go against my royalty payment structure?

    Is the only way to sell my book on consignment if I buy my own books? Again, not working towards reaching my royalty percentage increase.

    Why does it feel like the business structure you have in place isn’t working to commercially promote my product?

    Asking the right questions shows awareness … and that’s what we need for each other, to show the publishing world our awareness of how we want to see our publishing world evolve.

    We are the creators of the story. There are readers who want to read our story.  If you are self-publishing, YOU are building the bridge to link the story to the reader. Share with the rest of us how the construction works. It is this kind of networking that will put the creators in control.

     
    • William H. Johnson 11:23 am on February 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for this new post, Dayna!

      “To answer this, explore how you think the self-publishing companies see us, the self-publishers. We are not … on the front lines together, people. These companies are NOT our best friends, the saviors of our unrecognized talents. No … they are companies that are out to make profits (which is fair) but some of them “bank” on the assumption that you do NOT have a commercially viable product.”

      This is an important point. It’s a business. Some of these companies, like the one I work with, pumps out around 5000 titles a year, most are vanity titles that won’t go anywhere or weren’t intended to by the author. They allow you to buy returnability or you can earn it through recognition programs…but you still have to buy a package that is eligible for the recognition program. The point is you have to know that their policies, products, even the company’s culture (the feel you get when trying to do business with them on the phone) is dictated by that fact. Most of who they deal with are authors that don’t know much or anything about the business of publishing, marketing and distributing a book. Therefore your friend, the serious entrepreneur, may need to put extra energy into working with that company to help them operate on her level. Because it’s just not what they are used to and many forget that is it in their best interest not to totally BLOW IT with the good ones. Even though the good ones aren’t really their target market.

      I come from the indie film world, I’ve never had the illusion that somehow my self publishing company was going to go get my book sold. I’ve hired directors of photography, production designers, and make up artists. I’ve rented cube trucks, dollies. etc. They weren’t going to sell my film. They were suppose to help me make it. So, I paid my self publishing company to produce a cover, provide basic production management, interior design. I paid their editorial department to provide evaluation, editing service, additional proofreading. But it was still my job to check their work and challenge their work at every step because I’m the producer and the buck stops with me. As indie author/publishers we need to know this.

      About bookstores stocking our book. Why would the Barnes and Noble in Montclair, CA stock your book, even if it has returnability? These bookstores are businesses too. Unless you’re a national public figure (Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck…and if Tiger wrote a book right now…Bookstores on MARS would be screaming for it) there really is no reason. You have to think that way. We as indie authors have to determine and build a CAMPAIGN to get bookstores to stock the book (or get your book made into a movie). Fiction authors have it tricky. It isn’t enough to have written a good book or even have a good cover. There has to be an angle you can sell even though you’re the creator of make believe not a financial adviser. Once you have that angle, make it the theme of your videos, blog about it, multi media, hit the online forums, start your ground war locally and kiss your cross.

      Returnability is needed but it only the very start. ‘least that’s how I see it. Thanks for another fine post.

      • DaynaHester 10:26 am on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear William H. Johnson:

        You know what I always like about your responses (rhetorical question)? Your responses always echo that if you’re self-publishing in the hopes of paralleling what a traditional publisher will do… then you have to do all the steps that that traditional publisher will do (e.g. design, editing, proofing, etc.). I am of the same school of thought

        And I think you’re absolutely right… the friend I referred to in the post that has no returnability and minimal discount… she found someone at the publishing company that is “finding loopholes,” and I think this refers to your statement “it’s just not what they’re used to.” And again, that’s why it’s important to be educated on the self-publishing process so we “think outside the box,” make solid suggestions and be a part of this changing world.

        Take care,
        Dayna

        • William H. Johnson 11:08 pm on February 22, 2010 Permalink

          Thanks Dayna. Its exciting stuff. We who have chosen to self publish must be just that, the publisher. We are the business person. We have to evaluate every aspect of our business. We are surrounded by naysayers at every turn. We wear an enormous amount of hats. But we do it because it calls to us. And we’re not afraid.

          Keep on postin’, Dayna Hester. Keep on postin’. :-)

    • A.P. Stephens 10:14 am on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Great post. I set my discount for bookstores at 45% and have it marked as returnable. Stores like B&N and Borders would not have accepted my book if it was not returnable. I probably would not have been able to do book signings if they were not returnable.

      Lightning Source only subtracts the cost of printing from the money that is received by the person/store who bought the book and paid the money. So if a book costs $10 retail and discount is at 45%, the store pays $5.50 per copy. If the book costs LS $4 to make, I received the $1.50 left over from the bookstore’s money they gave LS.

      Then again, returns would kill your profits, being you will have to pay the entire price the bookstore paid LS since someone will have to pay for the printing job. If you sell 5 books and make that $1.50 per book profit (total of $7.50) and if 1 copy gets returned, then you have to take $5.50 out of your profits. It basically goes down to for every 5 copies you sell, that profit will be wiped away for 1 book return. Luckily for me, I have not had any returns. :D

      • DaynaHester 10:20 am on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear A.P.Stephens:
        Your response is exactly the “networking” info writers need to hear. Thank you for sharing and informing us! You’re reply also indicates that as “book sellers,” we must be realistic in our “pitch” to bookstores and know our demographics!
        Have a great weekend.
        Dayna

    • Edward G. Talbot 3:22 pm on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      My sense is that having your book returnable versus not returnable is likely to be a very small factor in a bookstore carrying a self-published book. Because they’re pretty much NOT going to carry it. Exceptions might be small indie bookstores that you contact directly or local bigger stores where you have an “in”. I’m not sure either how big a deal returnability would be for those or how many of them you could realistically expect to carry your book – probably very few.

      I’ll throw out another take on returnability – if you expect half or more of your book sales to come through Amazon and almost none to come through brick and mortar stores, then amazon’s Createspace is the POD you want to choose if your primary concern is maximizing your profit. I believe you do not have the option of making the books returnable with them (please correct me if I’m wrong). Given the percentage of book-sales that take place online and specifically at amazon, an author needs to take a hard look at the expected sales breakdown. It’s all well and good to get your book in a few stores, but if you end up costing yourself extra commission on hundreds of your sales just to get 20 or 30 sales in brick and mortar stores, that may not be the best approach.

      Note that I am not opining about whether doing most of your sales on amazon is good or not, just that many self-published authors find that to be what happens. Don’t just “make it returnable” because stores that aren’t likely to carry it anyway require that. It all comes down to figuring out in advance where/how you will generate sales.

      • DaynaHester 4:32 pm on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks again for the info, Edward G. Talbot. With regard to book returnability and bookstores, my friend that I referred to in the post cannot even coordinate a book signing through a local Barnes & Noble without either returnability or purchasing the books herself in order to enter a consignment deal.

        Moreover, I really think your input regarding “maximizing your profts” is a smart one. I am seeing now how important it is to try to approach your book sales/marketing from a practical/reasonable stance. I find it thought provoking!

        Take care!
        Dayna

    • Edward G. Talbot 6:37 pm on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Dayna -

      Good point about book signings, I hadn’t thought of that. certainly sounds like if one intends to do a lot of them, returnability becomes a bigger factor.

      important stuff to think about, for sure.

      • Ed
      • A.P. Stephens 7:16 pm on February 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Returnable, I believe, might have been a big factor in Barnes & Noble approving my title in their Small Press Dept which ordered a couple hundred copies to be distributed to B&N far and wide, even in towns I am not in. Though most of the B&N in Dallas carry my book, I have seen it listed in stock in San Antonio, Austin, Houston, and even New York.

        I think if I told them it was not returnable, they probably would have passed on it. And the return question seems to come up for book signing inquiries, etc when I talk to them.

    • Lora Collinsworth 11:24 am on March 10, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      i am new at this and need a lot of help its all very confusing to me, i am looking for who i should go with to publish my book, can you help me ?

  • DaynaHester 10:35 am on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Is Nothing Fair? 

    I carry in my purse a dictionary because I believe one measure of my sincerity will be that when I speak, the words I say convey my intended meaning (for good or bad). In turn, I measure the sincerity of others when I sense this value system being reciprocated … and therein lies my greatest pet peeve. When someone says a word/phrase that I can’t quite figure out what the meaning is (sarcasm, double entendre, wrong definition, e.g.), I obsess about it unnecessarily. I don’t mean obsess as in bar fight confrontations. It’s more like… well, take today for example. I’m done blogging about the obstacles and impasse that self-publishers must overcome; it’s negative news. Instead, I want to focus on ingenuity, benefits and the hard work it takes to succeed in the publishing world. This is how the visions are manifested. But… I can’t stop obsessing about this one last, little, tiny obstacle I encountered in a telephone conversation because I am baffled by the “meaning.”

    Me: Yes, hi there. My name is Dayna Hester. I’m self-publishing my book. I’ve done everything to insure my work will present at a professional level. I’ve been researching how to market my book, and I see that your organization is the presenter of quite a few prestigious literary awards. Do you accept self-published works?

    Her: No.

    Me: How about if the work were submitted by a credible review source?

    Her: No.

    Me: Is there any way I can possibly submit my—

    Her: No… sorry, we do that to be fair.

    Me: Huh? I’m sorry, did you say “fair”?

    Her: Yes, the only way to be fair to all self-publishers is to not to accept from any self-publishers.

    She hung up first.

    I was confused. Can nothing be fair? It is illogical thinking, isn’t it? In a democratic world, isn’t fairness entitled to be challenged? How do you challenge nothing? In loose terms, that was how my obsession started to take off … soon, my stream of consciousness flowed into myopia because I kept picturing in my mind an area of space with nothing in it and someone pointing to the area and saying, “What you have over there (the empty space), that is fair, impartial, just, equitable.”

    I pulled myself out of the fog remembering what Edward G. Talbot posted on a previous blog: “The only way to really have an impact is to work towards getting people to pay attention to the places [that do recognize] self-published works. The old models are beginning to break down.”

    Here’s one for everyone: http://www.independentpublisher.com.

    And awards are important. It is not a process wherein the author should feel shy or pretentious about submitting the work for acknowledgement. Aside from critical attention, many of the awards require category submissions. These are opportunities to reach out to your precise audience.

    By the way, “Who is your audience?” The single most important question for a self-publisher who intends on promoting and marketing his/her book.

    I herein proclaim that from this blog forward, I will not focus on the negativity of what cannot be done for the self-publisher; instead, I will focus on what is being done … it’s all good news!  

     
    • sybilnelson 11:23 am on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      That is so frustrating!

    • Winslow Eliot 1:16 pm on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      GO, Dayna! You are breaking down barriers and sharing with us all your battles. I’m so proud of you and your perseverance – and it’s wonderful to be a pioneer, but it also is challenging and bruising, I know. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the helpful link too – I decided to go indie too, after a lifetime stuck in oldthinkingpublishing, and I’m excited. And grateful to you and others who are making it happen!

      • DaynaHester 1:33 pm on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        What a wonderful post. Thank you. And the farther along in this journey I get, the more I start to understand why I write (it is simply to write). When I was in the mindset of “finding an agent,” “exciting a publisher,” I was more focused on the “commerciality” success and what that brings versus my purpose. Now I am spending hours and hours prepping my story for my own publication with no idea whether the “commerciality” success is there or not… yet, I believe in myself and my story more than ever. I am where I am supposed to be.

    • Simon 1:46 pm on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Positivity is indeed a much better way to move forward. It’s kind of fun to be cranky now and then, for sure. But people tend to like bright and sunny better than irritable and sarcastic. Strange, that. Best of luck with the process, good lady!

    • Edward G. Talbot 2:44 pm on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      another great post, Dayna. There’s nothing wrong with anger and frustration, as you recognize. It’s both a natural reaction, and valuable in small doses. It just serves a limited purpose. One of my favorite quotes is from Don Henley’s song “My Thanksgiving”:

      “And have you noticed that an angry man
      can only get so far?
      Until he reconciles the way he thinks things ought to be
      with the way things are.”

      We don’t wanna be that guy. A small part of each of us may indulge the fantasy of reaching the summit and laughing in the face of the traditionalists, but we only reach the summit with a thousand and one positive connections along the way.

    • Arlene Radasky 5:14 pm on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I decided, during a Writer’s conference about two and a half years ago that the publishing world had changed and they had not realized it yet. All the agents and publishers, even the small houses were telling us how few books they read and take even fewer. It was so depressing that my mind was made up then. I made another big decision, to give my book away in a many places as i could. I wanted readers. So i started with FreeEBooks.net. i have world-wide readers from there and was translated and distributed in Iran. I also recorded and am now in Podiobooks.com. From all that, I have about 10,000 readers. I do have it at Amazon, POD with CreateSpace and other sites for sale but do not make a profit. I wanted people to be able to read what I wrote. And now they are.

      • DaynaHester 10:31 am on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear Arlene Radasky:

        Thanks for sharing the FreeEBooks.net site. 10,000 readers is impressive… and most importantly, sharing this info with us can spark other ideas within each of us as to how to best use today’s technology. The capacity to reach out to our readers is there, as you’ve just shown.

        Take care,
        Dayna

    • A.P. Stephens 10:54 pm on February 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for the link to the Independent Pub site. I might consider entering The Stolen Moon of Londor for this year’s award consideration.

      And I feel your pain about trying to get into the doors of places when you use the term “self-pub”, “small press”, or “indie”. They treat me differently, but I stay persistent. And usually after they see my book in their hand and see the nice job I did on packaging, the formatting, editing, book cover, etc they usually change their tune…but sometimes they just aren’t open to indie books.

      Keep up the nice work and stay diligent.

    • Ingrid King 9:55 am on February 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I was glad to read that you’ll be focusing more on the positive aspects of self-publishing rather than on the drawbacks. I think those of us who self-published are more than aware that there are challenges that traditionally published authors don’t encounter, but focusing on what can’t be done has never helped anyone achieve their goals and dreams.

      I’ve found that it’s just not worth my time and effort to try to persuade someone who’s not willing to look at an indie author to change their mind. I’d rather focus my energy on the many opportunities that ARE available to promote and market my book than get discouraged by the naysayers.

      • DaynaHester 10:28 am on February 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear Ingrid King:

        Sorry for the delay in response… I think you hit on one of the most important aspects that a self-publisher must focus on, which is keeping your “engergy on thge many opportunities,” and negativity/naysayers detract from recognizing the possibilities. If you have any “outside the box” promotion ideas, we’d love to hear them.

        Take care,
        Dayna

    • Marc K. Dion 8:17 am on March 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Maybe “fairness” is not the issue. Sounds to me like you walked into a black hole of stupidity. “Fair” is about as easily accessible as the Higgs Bosun. By the way, the red spell check squiggly suggests that current quantum technology does not exist. That’s not fair.

      • DaynaHester 12:59 pm on March 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        You are a funny person… I had to look up Higgs boson, and you’re absolutely right: “fair” in this context is not observable. I’m sorry it took so long to get your site out to everyone. Thanks for commenting.

  • DaynaHester 12:17 pm on February 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    I Struck Gold: My Book is On Amazon.com 

    What does the statement, “Your book will be for sale on Amazon.com” really mean to an author?

    I fear that many authors in the throes of marketing their book (self-published or traditional) may reason out the meaning of that statement by thinking that if their book is on Amazon just like established published authors, then they have accomplished the first important step to marketing their book. This is not solid reasoning. Instead, ask yourself the following questions:

    1. If my book is on Amazon, how will people find my book?
    2. How will visitors to Amazon know to search my book title?
    3. How will my Amazon listing reach out from the abyss of cyberspace and get the attention of a potential buyer?

    Plain and simple, your book will not reach out from Amazon. You need readers to become aware of your book so that they will reach into Amazon.

    How do I get readers to reach into Amazon to find my book? 

    One of the best proven ways of driving potential purchasers to your book for sale on Amazon is EXPOSURE of your book whether in the secular world or cyberspace. Consider the following exposure vehicles:

    • The “prestigious” review sources that I blogged about in “My Back Hurts: I Tried to Move a Mountain” (great responses).
    • High exposure review sources (TheBookDesigner.com gave a great link: http://www.stepbystepselfpublishing.net/free-book-reviews.html).
    • Submit your book for literary awards and/or critical recognition (my next blog).
    • Ask your local library to to shelf your book (in the State of New Jersey, libraries will shelf any book a resident of the state requests).
    • Set up book signings.
    • Network with other writers, asking how they marketed their book (and posting a comment here would be wonderful).
    • Solicit retail and indie bookstores, asking, “What will it take for you to shelf my book?”

    Short answer: Your book and your design cover are your advertisements.

    Do not trap your mind into thinking that the only reason to have your books shelved in bookstores is for readers to purchase. Think exposure in the form of advertisements: in theory, you want the possibility of fifty people seeing your book; ten of those fifty people to look your book up on Amazon; and five of those ten people to buy your book from Amazon. An ideal world is that of those five that buy on Amazon, three end up recommending your book by word of mouth to ten people they each know (30 people)… and we know the formula from there; pretty soon readers are reaching into Amazon to find you (take note how important Amazon reviews are based by this hypothetical).

    What if I have contacted book stores and they responded that they cannot shelf my book?

    My advice: Combine thinking outside the box with polite assertiveness. Consider the following correspondence:

    My e-mail: Dear Bookstore: What will it take to have my self-published book shelved in your store?

    The reply: Dear Dayna: Nothing you can do. Sorry. We do shelf self-published books but only if their spines are NOT perfectly bound. If the spine of your book is of a professional quality and you are self-published, we cannot shelf your book. Good luck with your marketing, though.

    I started thinking outside the box… should I go to my local craft store, slap my manuscript into a scrapbook and decoupage the front with my design cover proofs? Nah, too difficult to mass produce if I should ever be so lucky.

    My return e-mail: Dear Bookstore: Could I send a free copy of my book to an employee of your store. And if that employee feels that the book is comparable to other books shelved in your store, could I then I ask you to entertain the thought of shelving my book? Thank you for your time and consideration.

    The reply: Yes, send the book to the attention of [omitted for obvious reasons]. It’s no guarantee, but it may lead to having your book shelved at our bookstore.

    ***

    The journey of self-publishing starts with the self, and we must be resourceful (not aggressive, pushy and/or obnoxious) in the ways we reach out. If you self-publish, you do not have the benefit of a traditional publisher who has the clout and cloud to rain books over every bookstore nationwide in order to push sales. But that’s okay… we all start somewhere.

     
    • sybilnelson 12:23 pm on February 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I liked your polite assertiveness angle. That email to the bookstore was great!

    • Edward G. Talbot 1:25 pm on February 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’ll leave a short comment for once :) I agree with all this. There are a lot of things that go into making a good book. The writing, obviously. Editing/Cover/Layout. But the marketing and PR makes a huge difference in success or failure. For a self-published author, it is hands-down the single biggest factor assuming the writing and book design is decent.

      I may have mentioned this in a comment on another blog post, but it bears repeating. You implied as much in your post here. Every bit of PR and marketing has one goal, and it’s not to sell books directly. It’s to generate word of mouth. Now, selling books IS an excellent way to generate word of mouth, so anything you do to sell directly is good. But keep in mind that you’re probably not going to sell 5000 or 10,000 books (enough to make some level of meaningful income) yourself. You’ll sell that many because someone you sold to or someone who read a guest blog or who read a review told someone else who bought the book – someone you never touched directly.

      So everything you do to publicize the book needs to be considered in light of how it furthers “word of mouth”

    • Paula 4:16 pm on February 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      It’s late where I am, so will check this out later – just wanted to respond after you left me a message on Twitter :)

    • Sue Collier 11:52 am on February 3, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I really appreciate your realistic view of getting your books on Amazon. Many authors seem to think that getting on Amazon is some sort of holy grail of publishing, when in reality, if you’ve got an ISBN, your book will probably show up there. That’s not the hard part.

      The hard part is, as you say, getting people to look for your book on Amazon–or anywhere else. That’s where a solid promotions plan comes in. I believe an online campaign gives “indie” authors the biggest bang for their buck in creating buzz. (You’ve talked about this in your previous post, “Who Do You Think You Are.”)

      I’m really enjoying following along, Dayna. And though I feel you would have been better served by not going the subsidy route, your tenacity is going to serve you well–and I’m looking forward to seeing what you’ll accomlish!

    • Ingrid King 8:19 am on February 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’ve had good luck getting my book into local bookstores by making the rounds personally. Yes, it’s time consuming, and it may not sell a lot of books, but it gets your book, and awareness of your book, out there. I think the key to getting your self-published book into stores is that it comes with a bookseller’s return guarantee. Stores generally won’t take chances on an unknown or first time author unless they know they won’t get stuck with unsold inventory.

      However, while there is definitely a certain thrill factor of seeing your book on the shelves at your local store, it’s probably not the most effective marketing tool. I think online is where it’s at for indie authors. Find book blogs that will review your book, post frequently on your own blog, utilize social media – the opportunities to promote online are endless.

    • loulocke 4:31 pm on February 6, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Dear Dayna,

      I have just started this marketing process, and already your post helped me. One of the book reviewers on the list compiled on TheBookDesigner.com has agreed to read and review my book. I just finished my series of posts on why I decided to self publish, and my next series of posts will be on some of the ways I have tried to overcome the disadvantages of being a self-published author, Your last post that details the kind of editorial efforts an author needs to put into a self-published book will be an important part of how I frame those posts. I hope they will be of use to you in your journey.

    • William H. Johnson 10:59 pm on February 8, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      A lot of good information in this post. And some really good comments. Of course you’re exactly right. Its nice to have Amazon as part of your distribution machine, but it is just that. Distribution. Unless they feature your book on a high traffic page it won’t market your book nor will they take steps to sell it. Amazon has a number of printers that work behind the scenes, from what I hear so, you aren’t even going to get a bunch of wholesale sales out of it. They will order prints as are demanded by people reaching into their site for you…

      HOWEVER, all is not completely lost. You can leverage the fact that you’re available on Amazon to your first phase of buyers. As you position your friends, family, clients, and other contacts to build your initial order at the base of the grassroots, let them know. It is impressive to the general public to know your book will be there, it’s not just being sold out of your trunk. In addition to being all over the internet my book will be featured in a special collections boutique on Barnes and Noble’s site. Just two clicks down from Oprah’s Book Club. Same thing, who cares if no one knows, but when I posted that to my Facebook fan page I got a lot of very positive responses. Leverage leverage leverage, Dayna. Every piece of positive news adds value to your campaign.

      And keep rockin’ these awesome blog posts. :-)

  • DaynaHester 10:36 am on January 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    My Back Hurts: I Tried to Move a Mountain 

    The definition of “pre-submission” in terms of my self-publishing journey:  To submit your manuscript/galley/Advanced Reading Copy (ARC) to high-exposure review sources before the manuscript reaches publication. An average pre-submission occurs around two to three months before your book reaches publication.

    What do I mean by “high-exposure review sources”?  Any review source (journal, magazine, catalogue, online forum, etc.) that is considered within the publishing industry as a credible source to recommend books for purchase.  The following is not an inclusive list but demonstrates:

    • Publisher’s Weekly
    • Kirkus Review
    • BookPage
    • ForeWord
    • American Library Association
    • American Library Journal
    • Booklist

    Who receives these review sources? As an example, one very influential review source reaches “bookstores and libraries in 48 states.” Meaning, if you submitted your manuscript within the required submission timeframe and your manuscript was selected to be reviewed (regardless of a bad or good review), your exposure rate would be tremendous. The individuals who make it their business to buy books (not readers) would see your title:

    • Independent bookstores.
    • Retail bookstores.
    • Libraries.
    • High school libraries.
    • Booksellers (who may specialize in airports, hotels, grocery stores, etc.).

    Why is it the case that a book must be submitted to most review sources (not all) before the publication? It is the individual policy of most of the review sources. I think it is a fair policy.

    Now, many of you may think that these reviews are only valuable because you can print the review on the back of your book; that is NOT where I am headed. The most important reason to have reviews from credible review sources is it allows for a clean and organized marketing campaign to take off; meaning, you submit the manuscript, you give a precise publication date (three months out), you see what sources are going to review your book, and from there you plot out where to target your book marketing campaign (traditional publishers have been known to send out thousands of ARCs to reviewers, booksellers, etc.). As an example, based on the review, you direct your attention towards a bookseller who has connections in high school libraries. In turn, ideally, that bookseller is successful and gets distribution orders from high school libraries nationwide who want to shelf your book. Your distributor (Ingram is the greatest; it is who I am going through) fulfills these orders and ships them out to the high school libraries. This would be successful marketing, in my opinion.

    Guess what, Self-Publishers? You CANNOT pre-submit your manuscript to a majority of the credible review sources that I’ve been herein referring. It is their policy. It is their guidelines. It is set in stone. It would take someone who can move a mountain to have it otherwise.

    How did I hurt my back? I personally called one of these credible review sources that the American Bookseller’s Association recommends because I needed clarification on the statement that says, “We do not give review consideration to self-published books, print-on-demand titles or books from presses that lack major distribution.”

    I thought to myself, Hey, I have major distribution through Ingram … let me give ‘em a call.

    THE CALL:

                Me: I’m self-publishing my book. With regard to the policy of not accepting self-publishers who do not have “major distribution,” I’m going to be distributing through Ingram. My publication date is three months out. Can I submit the manuscript for a review?

                Her: No.

                Me:  Really? It’s through Ingram, I’ll be offering a 48% wholesale discount and returnability on my book. Does that change anything?

                Her: No.  

                Me: Oh … okay. How come?

                Her: It’s been our experience that if we give a favorable review to a self-published book and essentially recommend to our subscribers that they buy the book, we have found that the distribution demands cannot be met, and we can’t place ourselves in that position.

                Me: But… could that be the case, distribution demands can’t be met, even through Ingram?

                Her: You’d have to call Ingram about that. But good luck with your book.

    I hung up the phone. My back cramped up because, I think, I tried to push against something that’s just not going to move.

    How can my sharing this story possibly help you?

    1)      Maybe I opened your eyes to how people find your book. This is why online reviewers, Amazon Reviewers, local book clubs, online book forums are so valuable to the self-publisher. People will not simply just “find you” because you’re on Amazon.com, BN.com.

    2)      Maybe you didn’t know about these obstacles, whether you think they are fair or not, but you are better informed now.

    3)      Most importantly, by hearing this story, I hope it triggers the “problem-solving” part of your mind. Let’s think outside of the box, writers. We need these reviewers; the readers who find out about the books they read from these reviewers need us. How can we offer to build a bridge that benefits both sides – the reviewers and us?  As an example, I thought I had was requiring a submission fee to pay for a “weeding out” process and if a manuscript passes the “weeding out” stage, it becomes eligible for review?

    Let’s keep thinking. Let’s keep helping one another.

     
    • Edward G. Talbot 11:09 am on January 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I agree with thinking outside the box on this. Here’s the big picture to look at. the single biggest obstacle to self-publishing can be summed up in one word: gatekeepers. Publishing probably has more gatekeepers than any other industry. You have agents, agent’s assistants, acquiring editors, bookstore buyers, publisher promotion people, reviewers, etc. That’s not even including the self-appointed gatekeepers who want to tell you “how things are done.”

      Now, I am not saying that these gatekeepers are all bad. They exist for reasons beyond just perpetuating the current system . In practical terms, agents, publishers and stores are looking for the most efficient way to narrow down what they can sell. Like any business with barriers to entry (which is most), that does not result in the best work being sold, because the consumer does not actually have the information and choices to make a purely “free market” decision.

      OK, back to reviewers. Inability to meet distribution is one of the more ridiculous excuses I have ever heard. It’s not the real reason. A POD printer like LSI can get loads of books out in a matter of days if the demand is there. The real reasons are probably several:
      1.These reviewers don’t want to be inundated with books – they don’t have the time.
      2.Many of the reviewers undoubtedly have a bias against self-published work. Given the quality of the median self-published work (pretty bad), the bias is understandable.
      3.The gatekeeper concept. Not only do many reviewers relish their role as gatekeepers, they also are at least subconsciously aware that if they start opening themselves up, other parts of the industry that want to see the status quo perpetuated might intimate that said reviewer does not do as good a job, or publishers might possibly even delay/withhold books from them. I know this sounds kind of self-defeating, but I have little doubt that it is a factor.

      In terms of reviewers, I would say the only way to change the situation is to make it more costly for them not to review your book than for them to review it. Suggesting a fee is not likely to work. The only way to really have an impact is to work towards getting people to pay attention to places that WILL do reviews of self-published work. As with everything else, the old models are beginning to break down – some of you may know that Kirkus announced last month it was closing its doors. Subsequently, they have announced that they will still exist in a somewhat different form, but they are feeling the heat of the internet.

      Which leads me to my final conclusion – I tend to think self-published authors shouldn’t worry about these reviewers too much. As I said, the models are changing. Gatekeepers are becoming less important. Places whose sole task is to filter are going to keep becoming less relevant, because information is everywhere these days. So look for all the various different ways you can market your book.

      I lied – I have one more “final” note. here’s a somewhat radical idea that is already being tried I believe. Create an entity, a group of authors that band together to create a “publisher” while having each individual author responsible for his/her own financial risks/gains. If it gets big enough, it could wield enough clout to make reviewers take notice. Now, I can think of half a dozen potential problems with this idea, but I’m just throwing it out there. If we want to be part of the “gatekeeper” model – which is what going after those reviewers means – then we need enough clout to have an impact.

      • DaynaHester 4:00 pm on January 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Edward, thanks for taking out the time to comment — You’re really on your game here! It’s “funny” that you brought about the author’s creating a “publisher”… Did you know that if you’re self-published you cannot submit for The National Book Foundation for award consideration (I have to blog I’m sorry about this phone conversation) BUT if you are self-published AND you have published another author’s work THEN you can submit your self-published material. So I’ve been entertainment my mind… um, what would the circumstances be to satisfy that requirement. HA HA.

        Also, I liked your evaluation of the fee not working… why think about taping a house of cards together when a stronger foundation can be established.

        • Edward G. Talbot 1:17 pm on February 2, 2010 Permalink

          Late response (by several days!), sorry. No, I did not know that about the NBF, but I can’t say it shocks me. here’s a good one – my book is one I co-authors, does that meet the requirement.

          I know more than one author who have actually started “real” publishing companies and had some success – Variance (formerly Breakneck) and Gryphonwood are two that spring to mind. That’s probably not the best route for most authors, but it can be done.

    • Krissi Dallas 1:10 pm on January 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’m laughing somewhat bitterly because I want to throw up my hands and say “Welcome to the world of self-publishing obstacles!” I will say that (in my case) for every type of situation like the one you just described (where you get shut down simply because of the self-published umbrella), there has been an unexpected situation where someone really comes through for you and makes things happen – and sometimes BECAUSE you are self-published and they want to help! As far as reviews go, I have had some AWESOME reviews come about for my book – yes, it was after the book was published, but still extremely helpful and part of the marketing hype. Truthfully, it ALWAYS – in EVERY situation – boils down to “do you have a quality product that can stand up among the rest of the publishing world?” If so, then people will eventually give it a chance – it may be slow-going and full of rejections and long waits, but it can happen. Word of mouth via the internet and other places is a beautiful thing – WHEN people believe in your product. :) Keep plunging ahead, Dayna! I look forward to talking more with you on Monday! :)

      • DaynaHester 4:01 pm on January 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Hey, Krissi… can’t wait until Monday to see face-to-face (well… Skype) someone who knows and understands how much energy I’m putting into this. Have a great weekend and thanks for the comments!

    • loulocke 3:22 pm on January 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Dayna, I agree with Edward and Krissi, there are other opportunities for being reviewed, ( see an excellent article by Annette Fix http://wow-womenonwriting.com/downloads/printable/17-review.html) and the publishing world is changing so rapidly, that this may not be a disadvantage for long. In addition, I think we indie authors need to stress over and over the important advantage of control that we have in a long tail business model. We control when the book comes out, we control who reads and reviews it, and we control what is judged as success. Traditionally published authors often find that the promised review copies either don’t make it to the reviewers (like local book reviewers) in time for the planned book signings, or the review copies go out with-and the local reviews and books signings happen-but there are no books available because the date of publication is not met. None of this would be so disastrous if traditionally published authors weren’t up against such a narrow window to achieve “success.” But instead, problems with the timing can result in too few sales before the new crop of ARC’s arrive on a reviewer’s desk, the publisher’s reps are pushing the next month’s new releases, the posters are taken down from the bookstores to be replaced by this month’s best seller, or the copies of your book finally arrive after all the marketing is over. And too few sales in the first months is judged a failure that may result at best in lower advances on your next book or at worse, no more book contracts. My book came out in December-my decision-but I haven’t started marketing it yet-again my decision. And there will be no penalty if it takes a few more months to get that marketing off the ground. Now the fact that my book is an historical and therefore has a pretty unlimited shelf life helps. Someone publishing something that is more time sensitive would want to have their marketing strategy well in place. But hey, just another advantage of self-publishing, you are not going to have to wait the 18 months that seem to be the industry standard to get your book out in print!

      • DaynaHester 3:52 pm on January 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear Loulocke: Thank you for responding. From your comments, I sense you’re well-versed in the publishing side of selling a book. I really enjoyed reading how what a self-publisher perceives as the ideal marketing goes awry regardless. Just slightly over month ago, I was toally green to the process. I was a writer who believed in her story and felt passionate that I had a message others would want to share in (and I obsessvely edited/revised/edited, blah, blah, blah). When I signed with a self-publishing company, I did not learn at that point about the “obstacles” (which I think you’re absolutely right; they “may not be a disadvatage for long”). When I did learn about “the obstacles” or the “gatekeeprs,” it did not sit well with me knowing that authors who have the same passion as I are blindly, in some ways, entering the self-publishing journey, possibly doing so without the “why this? why this?” attitude I have. I don’t know what’s worse at this point for unestablished strong writers: rejection after rejection because, to quote Edward, the gatekeeper’s not letting anyone in, or that they chose to self-publish (evolving in postive ways as we speak, I think) without the realization that the gatekeeper is omnipotent. Kind of long winded… but I think that all four of us, these four comments (Edward, Krissi, Loulocke, Mine) might make a difference for a “newbie” exiting the writing world and entering the publishing world — be informed, be optimistic, and network becuase the “how to” answers are out there (thanks for the link).

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    • Joel Friedlander 11:16 pm on January 31, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Dayna,

      Interesting post. You have obviously put a lot of work into this. I’m not sure in the end you will be happy that you decided to use a “subsidy” publisher. There are a variety of ways to publish, and finding the right fit is what’s important.

      For a fantastic list of self-published book reviewers check Christy Pinhero’s website (in the link).

      I have to disagree with Edward G. Talbot, at least as far as when he says “Gatekeepers are becoming less important. Places whose sole task is to filter are going to keep becoming less relevant, because information is everywhere these days.” It seems to me that the proliferation of information and the tsunami of choices will drive people toward just a few trusted sources of information. Most people have no desire to try to figure out all the choices coming at them.

      Also, Dayna, having self-published myself and produced books for many self-publishers, my advice (for what it’s worth) is to find a guide who knows the territory. It will save you a lot of grief.

      Good luck!

  • DaynaHester 12:03 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    “Who Do You Think You Are?” 

    If your answer is, “I’m a self-published author (or soon to be),” I can assure you that ninety percent of you are probably wrong. Needless to say, the publishing world is making it complicated … on us.

    Be informed, read the following, and please yell back at the publishing world that “We know who we are.” In this blog, I will set out to define the following identities:

    • I’m a self-published writer (or soon to be).
    • I’m an Indie writer (and will remain so until I decide my publishing avenue).
    • I’m an indie writer publishing with a subsidy press (and I don’t see a problem with this).
    • I am a vanity writer … but I would like to apologize to the self-published and indie writers that the publishing world puts my label on you.

    “I’m a Self-Published Writer”: Within the publishing world, if you call yourself “self-published,” then you are making the representation that you are publishing your book completely by yourself. Self-publishing a book by yourself means you are doing the following:

    1) You have done by yourself (or contracted out) your own impartial editorial evaluation to assess

    • That your title or subtitle reflects the book’s content and is appropriate for the genre.
    • That you are targeting the appropriate genre category (fiction, general; fiction, psychology; etc.).
    • That you know your target audience (mature read, young adult, etc.).
    • That the manuscript is suitable for your target audience based on publishing standards.
    • That your “back cover” (hardcover back or paperback) entices a potential reader, appropriately “pitches” your book, and that it meets the standards for bookstores.
    • That the keywords you plan to use to market your book are appropriate.
    • That the author bio contains “regional-interest statements” such as where you live, work, hobbies, etc.
    • That the first page, first chapter engages and captivates potential buyers of the book.
    • That the overall premise of the book is appealing for its intended target.
    • That the language level is consistent throughout the book.
    • That the plot structure holds the attention of your reader and progresses in a coherent manner.
    • That the story gives an appropriate sense of time and space, without slowing the pace.
    • That your characters are believable (dialogue, action, description, etc.) and introduced for a clear purpose.That the manuscript is free from grammar and punctuation mistakes, and that the writing style allows your reader to transcend beyond the typed words.

    2) Based on the recommendations of the editorial evaluation, you have performed by yourself (or contracted out) any or all of the following editorial services:

    • Copyediting.
    • Line editing.
    • Content editing.
    • Developmental editing.
    • “Book doctoring.”
    • A “ghostwriter.”
    • Proofreading.
    • If non-fiction, indexing.
    • Cover copy polish (hardback and/or paperback).
    • Consult regarding key words, author bio, tag lines, pitch, etc.

    3) After the editorial evaluation and the editorial services are complete, you set out to publish your book:

    • You arrange for PRE-SUBMISSION reviews (I can’t stress this enough).
    • You format your book (both hardback and paper) or contract the service out.
    • You register your work with the U.S. Copyright Office.
    • You secure an ISBN number.
    • You bring together all the front cover elements (cover art, fonts, etc.)
    • You bring together all the back cover elements (reviews, bio, pitch)
    • You arrange bookseller discounts.
    • You arrange distribution.
    • You arrange returnability for your book through the distributor.
    • Secure a domain name and/or research blog sites.
    • You speak with others who have successfully been involved in publishing, because I’m sure I’m missing something.

    4) After you have published your book, you set out to market/promote your book (or you contract out a book marketer/promoter):

    • You get your book placed on Amazon.com and BN.com (which is EASY, but how will they find you?).
    • You move into cyberspace: Twitter, FaceBook, blogging, book forums, online reviewers, your website, etc.
    • You submit THE POSITIVE PRE-SUBMISSION REVIEWS THAT YOU NOW HAVE IN HAND, to bookstores (indie and local retail), to booksellers, to any place that stocks books, you post them on your website, blogs, ask and beg your cyber world to take note of them, etc.
    • You look into Podcast postings to entice readers.
    • You push the book through e-book distributors.
    • You push for a traditional publishing house to recognize you (if this is an end goal).
    • You try to set up interviews (radio shows, journals, blogs, etc.).
    • You ask your community for support.
    • You contact indie bookstores for support and to shelf the book.
    • You arrange book signings.
    • You respond to this blog and tell us what else we should do!

    “I’m an Indie writer”: within the publishing world, this means you are independent and maintain control over your manuscript. There are three types of “indie writers”:

    • I’m an Indie writer looking for an agent or a publishing deal. When you do land that great publishing deal, many “indie writers” would argue that you are no longer “indie” because you have lost creative control over your manuscript.
    • I’m an Indie writer who is self-publishing (see “self-publishing” journey above).
    • I’m an Indie writer going with a subsidy press – meaning, your manuscript will go through the SAME JOURNEY as a self-published manuscript but you will be subsidizing the costs in order to take advantage of the subsidy press’s knowledge in the industry. That subsidy press will help guide you and do some of the work that is outlined in the self-publishing journey.

    **CAUTION: You CANNOT be an Indie writer AND a vanity writer at the same time.

    How do I know that “I am a vanity writer”?

    • You set out to self-publish your book without any editorial evaluation or editorial services.
    • You engaged the services of a subsidy press but refused to partake in an editorial evaluation or editorial services (and mind you, a previous comment was left on this site about a writers group who provide free proofreading and editing to one another … but you still don’t partake in these support groups).

    ** BOTTOM LINE, you’re a vanity writer, if, When you read what a Self-Publishing writer does, and you say to yourself, “Jeez, I didn’t have to do that much to get my book published.” If you’re either a vanity writer or involved in the publishing world and have “accidentally” labeled an Indie writer as a vanity writer, please help us “Indie writers” correct the mistake.

    We are out here … we know who we are … and we are working hard for the recognition.

     
    • Nettie Thomson 1:11 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Very interesting post, Dayna. There is so much to consider & plan before self-pubishing which might be what pushes some writers towards the vanity press? I am enjoying your journey and Look forward to sharing mine some day. Good luck again!

      • DaynaHester 1:25 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        The problem that I am running into at my stage of “subsidy press publishing” is that whether you are self-publishing or subsidy press publishing, you are considered “vanity” to a good portion of the publishing world still. Vanity writing has no credibilty (it’s where the self-publishing stigma starts) and the publishing world (credible review journals especially ) refuse to acknowledge “vanity press.” I think you have a valid point re the “consider & plan” part, but at the same time, there’s lots of writers who do put the hard work into “consider & plan,” and we need to think of ways to distinguish between the two groups so the publishing world can give recognition where due.

        As a side note as well (not so much directed atyour comment) many great writers who publish through traditional publishing, do MANY of the editorial steps before they approach their publisher.

        My thoughts… thanks for commenting! :)

    • William H. Johnson 2:00 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Interesting post! I am a self published writer, and I am well aware of the stigmas. I came at my decision from the indie filmmaking world, which, ironically doesn’t have the same stigma. In the film world its cool to max out your credit cards to make the film you’ve always wanted to make. There are cool points associated with “indie”. In publishing, I have found that if you do everything you listed under self publishing, which I have or am in the process of doing, still…there is this kind of quiet that surrounds you…a hesitance, mainly, perhaps, because it is felt that traditional publishers are the only people out there that can certify the quality of the writing. However, if the film world is of any indicator, this distinction your article yearns for will manifest. I believe it is inevitable, as the business climate changes so will the way we do business – and – publishing after all is just that. A business.

      William H. Johnson (weeks away from being a) SELF-PUBLISHED author.

      P.S. I sometimes wonder if wouldn’t be a bad idea to shake up the semantics. I often call myself and “Indie Author” using Author to reflect the fact that I am being published and Indie to reflect that the publication operation is independent of the major publishers. Just some additional logs to throw on the fire.

      • DaynaHester 2:55 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear William: Thank you so much for this post and following DM … you really see where I’m going with this post … semantics, and, yes, I’m very familiar with the “indie films” and how it parallels/doesn’t parallel the publishing world. You will really connect with my next blog… I hope to post on Monday. Look forward to exchanging more info with you!

        • William H. Johnson 6:13 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink

          You are welcome! This is a great topic that I feel strongly about as you can see from my reply to Renee’s post. What distinguishes us will begin with editorial. There is a process that gets a good manuscript to a good book, and it must be followed. You can’t cut corners, you need feedback (Beta reader function) during the revision process. You need to do your revisions based on those notes, you need to do your homework, before the editorial eval I think, and then you have to get a good one. I got a 27 page eval before I hired an editor, and I had a professional proofreader go through the book after that. The problem with the vanity writers that assume the name “self published” is they don’t do the things that a publisher would do and the quality suffers.

    • yearzerowriters 2:28 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’m not sure where I figure on your scale. In terms of the pre-submission process I am a self-publisher (an Indie one on these definitions) – the reason I self-publish is I want to have control over who does these things. On the other hand, I don’t fit when it comes to logistics. I do not have an ISBN, and have less and less interest in acquiring one – I’ll be blogging about logistics some time this week, but I’ve become more and more convinced over the last year that the “great distribution hurdle” is actually a non-question for many indie authors. My inkling is that many indie authors want to emulate or surpass the quality of book of their mainstream colleagues, but have no interest in emulating their means of distribution. I’m not sure where that leaves us on yourmodel?

      • DaynaHester 2:59 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I love that you thought to comment about “where you fit into the model.” I’d love to check out your blog, learn more about your path … and yes, expand “the model.” Talk soon!

      • DaynaHester 8:12 am on January 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear Yearzerowriters:
        I’ve read your comment closer this morning. I think my post needs some clarification with regard to “pres-submission process.” I refer to this term in the context pre-submiting your manuscript, galley or Advanced Reading Copy to review journals before our publication. I believe that having your book reviewed by credible reviewing sources is what leads to a successful marketing campaign… and success marketing campaign needs to have in place “means of distribution.” Now, I’m not to the stage of attesting to whether the distribution means I have in place will satsify my book order demands… but with “subsidy press” under my definitions, “emulating their means of distribution,” as you doesn’t appear to be the problem — I have the same distribution means as a major publishing house… while they service me like they do a major publishing house, I am not sure and therein lies the topic my next blog will be about. take care, dayna

    • R.E. (Renée) Chambliss 2:31 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Very interesting post. I struggle with the label “self-published” because so much of what has been done by other independent authors is not very well-written, and frankly, I don’t want my book to be thought of in the same vein. I like the distinction you’ve made here for the different categories for those of us who haven’t traveled the traditional publishing path. Maybe we need a new name, though, because I doubt the vanity writers will give up on being called “self-published”.

      • DaynaHester 3:00 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the posting, Renee! I loved hearing the spirit of your tone. Yes, let’s brainstorm a new “label” for us… and also think of ways to ensure a standard that we should hold ourselves up to. I look forward to hearing more from you.

        • R.E. (Renée) Chambliss 9:55 am on January 28, 2010 Permalink

          Thank you, Dayna for starting such an interesting discussion! I’m very impressed with how systematic you are being about all of this. And I think reading about your journey here will be super helpful for lots of independent authors.

          I agree with you about the standard, and think that as independent authors we have to be hyper-vigilant about the quality of our work, and seek out feedback and criticism from others, and then listen to what they have to say and incorporate their input so that our work can be a good as possible. No one is going to do that for us.

          I also think that the stories themselves have to speak to people. Readers (and listeners for podcast novelists) need to get something out of what we’ve created or all of the careful planning and marketing in the world won’t make much of a difference. And that’s where I agree with Edward. If our stories grab people and excite them and make them want to tell their friends, “You have to read this great book!” the self-published stigma won’t matter so much.

      • William H. Johnson 6:04 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        [I doubt the vanity writers will give up on being called “self-published”.] This is a fine point, because its reality. My wife was cornered by a couple of “old school” writers who heard her husband was “self publishing” and one of them got downright mean with her verbal aggression. It was a fascinating story for her to come home and tell. I’m all for this brainstorm. I like “Indie Author” by not take a note from the filmmaking world? The indie film world has accomplished the prestige that we’re after its just that the publishing business is behind on. Check out a comment on my latest blog post “Why I Dumped Screenplays to Write a Novel” at authorwilliam.com A person comments “You seem to write well enough, self publishing might work out for you.” My people who harassed my wife over publishing choice assumed I would not have a competent editor and just wouldn’t hear otherwise…even though traditional publishers often use freelancers and are as available for you and me to contract as they are for the big guns, particularly through orgs like iUniverse. Whatever we come up with, the first key is the editorial component, AND a certain dedication on the part of the author to hear the editor and make necessary changes. Love this topic.

        • William H. Johnson 6:17 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink

          Speaking of competent editors – I could have used one on the above reply. “Why not take a not from the film world” is what I meant to say. The rest of my typos are probably clearer. lol

        • R.E. (Renée) Chambliss 10:09 am on January 28, 2010 Permalink

          William-

          I agree about editorial input being essential! (And also about how easy it is for those typos to slide through when we’re quickly responding to something on line!) I’m sorry that your wife had to listen to disparaging comments like that. Off to check out your blog. It sounds like a worthwhile read.

          Good luck to you with your indie publishing plans!

    • louise 2:51 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Not heard of pre-submission review. How easy (or hard) is that to get?

      • DaynaHester 3:01 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear Louise: My next blog will be with regard to the INTENTIONAL obstacles self-publishers face with regard to pre-submission. Please hang in there or e-mail me at DaynaHestr@aol.com.

    • loulocke 7:44 pm on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Great post, will need some time tomorrow to respond. It was fun to go down the check list for the self-published author and say yep, yep, plan to, nope, etc. !!

    • Edward G. Talbot 8:33 am on January 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Great summary Dayna. I agree with so much of it. Let me just mention three issues:

      1.I can’t see how getting your own ISBN # is a requirement for self-publishing. In fact, in most cases it isn’t even an option if you choose a subsidy publisher. Just a minor point.

      2.What I liked best about this post is the detail about all the required steps. I released my first novel as a free audiobook/podcast with some success. I feel certain I could sell books if I self-published. But I don’t want to put out a book unless I’ve pretty much done everything you’ve outlined – I’ve done most of it, but not quite. Things like the cover are very important IMO – you’re shooting yourself in the foot if your cover is like 98% of the self-published covers out there.
      So I liked the detail, but I’m not sure I think the four distinctions are a big deal. In fact, I tend to think that focusing on them may take away from focusing on what really matters. Most readers don’t care about this distinction. Those that do probably won’t read it anyway. Most retailers already understand the distinction on some level, although many have biases that are unjustified. The way you get them on board (if they can be gotten, that is) is making the case for your specific book, not trying to explain their misconceptions. Which leads to #3

      3.Again, what I like about this post is the detail. but when asked i always caution authors to get too hung up in either the distinctions or the negatives. So self-publishing has a stigma. There is no point in thinking about that much at all. We authors who self-publish need to focus on what we can control and not get hung up on the places where we feel there is unfairness. Because even the author who gets that first publishing contract has loads of complaints – they aren’t making much money and they are getting no marketing support, etc. Then the midlist author, who has 4 or 5 books and should be able to start making a living realizes he/she can’t – that’s a whole other set of complaints. The point is that the only way to overcome the sense that any book not published traditionally is not good enough is to prove them wrong. I personally don’t care one way or the other about the stigma, even as I am likely to self-publish a book this year. I’ll focus on what I can do and not worry about what i can’t.

      • DaynaHester 8:45 am on January 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Dear Edward: Thanks for the reply… and I do think you bring out a great point about being positive… my favorite line in my post is what you find between the parentheses “And I don’t have a problem with it” with regard to self-publishing. The intent of this blog so far is to create a platform that informs how “publishing world” looks “at” self-published/indie/subsidy press writers so that we can “look back at them” with clear and informed eyes. In addition, in my journey so far, positivity and confidence is leading my way because time and time again, as I set out to research how to market my book, I’ve had to “put a positive spin on a ‘no’” and… it’s working out. I hope you come back to visit the blog… take care!

      • William H. Johnson 9:25 am on January 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Excellent, excellent comments, thank you posting them.

      • R.E. (Renée) Chambliss 9:46 am on January 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Edward-

        I agree with you. It’s what we have to work with, and what I try to keep reminding myself is that the reason I’m doing this (self-promotion and marketing and trying to get myself and my book known) is because I love stories! I love reading them and hearing them and writing them and recording them. I love that we can share stories with each other–and that these days we have so many mechanisms available to us that make sharing stories possible. In lots of ways, it’s a great time to be a storyteller!

        I can completely understand getting bummed out about the self-published stigma, because I do from time to time, but when I remind myself that self-publishing and podcasting allows me to connect with people who probably wouldn’t get to read/hear my fiction otherwise, I feel much better!

        Good luck with your indie author plans!

  • DaynaHester 9:11 pm on January 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Question: Why Can’t I Get Published? 

    Answer: It’s NOT Who You Know, That’s For Sure.

    I’m going to assume that my path into the self-publishing world might be slightly different from most. Why? Because I have a celebrity husband, and one would think that with his Rolodex, his wife would land a publisher regardless of typos, theme content and fragmented sentences. I mean, after all, I’ve seen haggard wives and busty mistresses casted in the movies of A-List directors time and time again. For this “Hollywood” household, though, it didn’t work that way. My rejection was the same as yours: “Great story but we just don’t think its commercial enough.”

    I’ve made this my second blog because I want all the first-time novelists, who have a few typos in their manuscripts but strong theme content along with a swift writing style, to believe in yourselves and understand in today’s publishing world what “not commercial enough” means.

    Here’s the path:

    The Husband: Bruce McNall, a man who’s both famous and infamous. He has own Wikipedia page, biography (published through Hyperion), IMDB listing, about 200,000 Google hits and lots of black-tie invitations. You can read his story; I don’t feel like telling it. I’ve heard it at almost every high-power networking dinner I’ve attended.  It’s old (btw, I do love him) and besides, I have my story to tell; albeit, fiction.

    The Rolodex: I did submit my book to my own “one connection.” Well, it was the co-author of Bruce’s biography, Michael D’Antonio, but he’s my friend, too (he wanted to learn about me over a casual dinner with Bruce and me). That contact turned into a “promise” from a top literary agent, made to Michael, that he’d read my book. I turned on my AOL “You’ve got mail” chime so I could hear e-mail arrivals from any room in the house; four months out, that e-mail promise was never fulfilled.  And when my impatience grew into patience, what did I do? I went to Bruce and asked for help. Two top entertainment agents, one TOP literary agent, and a top publishing CEO. There were four e-mails Bruce sent out and four reply e-mails Bruce received the next day saying that they’d accept submission.

    August 25, 2009: A very important date relative to my journey. The .pdf file went out to the four “connections” mentioned above. An important side note, just two weeks ago (January 2010) I thought of a tagline for my novel: Catcher in the Rye meets the Jaycee Dugard story, sprinkled with Psychology Today. Back to the importance of the date; on August 26, 2009, Jaycee Dugard was discovered (she had been kidnapped and missing for 18 years). It was an eerie coincidence for me; the protagonist that I had been living with for a year paralleled the trauma of this individual. Headline news story parallels my theme. Does it possibly sound commercial?

    The Responses:

    • The TOP agent. We heard from his assistant first. Only took a week, maybe a day less. “A powerful story … must be told … narrative voice … not strong enough.” Weird, that was my number one strength pointed out by the impartial readers I had been able to find to read the manuscript.
    • One of the top entertainment agents. A great guy (he and his wife both have asked about my life at dinner). Although his literary department felt the same (not commercial enough), yet his response to reading my manuscript developed my confidence and validated my publishing mission.
    • Top CEO of a publisher. He forwarded to Bruce his e-mail thread between himself and a staff editor of the publishing company. The editor thought the book was great but pulled sales numbers from similar genres (YA category; I’m hoping mine crosses over but marketed as MA), and again, pointed out as a first-time novelist, the manuscript would be a commercial risk.
    • And the last response…

    November 2, 2009: While the above three responses came in, their rejections were soothed over by the conversations Bruce was having with the Chairmen of the biggest talent agency in Los Angeles.  Six weeks before this November date, he called Bruce surprised, thinking my manuscript was another “make my wife happy” favor. The readers for the literary department read my manuscript, it came back with such high marks, that “Dayna is in the system. She’ll be assigned an agent.” Three weeks later, Bruce asked, “What’s the status of Dayna’s book?” Answer: “It’s on [blank’s] desk. Don’t worry. It’s a great book.” I Googled the name of the Manhattan agent (aka, “blank”)…. My internal dialogue “oohhh, wow. She’s big time.” A few sprinkles of “don’t worries” came here and there, and then on November 2, 2009, the big “R” came; “Sorry, they didn’t think it was commercial enough … but, we’ll send you a list of other agents that we’re sure will be happy to represent Dayna.”

    Guess what, People? Screw that! I signed with a self-publishing company 30 minutes later … why go down the ladder when I can invest in myself?

    And guess what Publishing World? If you define “commerciality” based on expected profitability in relation to your overhead, readers and writers alike are screwed! Relying on established writers to insure your overhead is covered leaves little room for unproven writers to grow into established authors. We all start somewhere, don’t we?

    Or maybe I’ve just defined the new evolution of publishing, wherein the self-publishing industry weeds out vanity press and ushers in the unrecognized … the unproven.

    Follow me in the blogs to come to see what the outcome will be. Until then … cheers!

     
    • Winslow 6:44 am on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for all the detail – I find it fascinating. I used to paper my bathroom with rejections; all contradictory and confusing, if I didn’t laugh at them. (Now I tend to cry more than laugh, but what the heck.) I have three novels (that actually ARE commercial, in my view!) that still haven’t sold – in spite of previous successes. I am trying to figure out a way to make them work for me as a business, but haven’t taken the leap into self pub yet. I’ll follow your experience with great interest.

      • DaynaHester 7:37 am on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I do hope you follow my journey… the bridge that connects readers to “their” writers and writers to “their” readers is broken – plain and simple. With today’s technology (podcasts, e-books, Amazon online orders, online reviewers), we CANNOT wait for traditional publishers to fix that bridge so that it once again favors their payroll. It’s time to think outside the box. The stigma of self-publishing is peeling and I believe there will be a publishing structure in place (self-publishers, e-book distributors, podcasts, PODs, etc.) wherein any writer will find their reader… the ratio of one writer to his or her readers (in hindsight) is what will define commercial success, no longer “profit ledger” speculation.

      • Dave 9:19 pm on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Wow, now this is something useful. Clearly there’s more to becoming a successful writer than writing a good story. In a world where big business publishing companies guard their bottom line by betting on the “Big Box-office” authors almost exclusively, an unknown writer faces a tough struggle for recognition. Thus, for those of us that want recognition in our endeavors, we must be more than writers. We need to understand all aspects of the publishing industry. You’ve got to know everything from layout and design to demographics and marketing. Your blog about your journey into self-publish and everybody else’s comments really are informative. Thanks.

        I’m looking forward to seeing more on e-book and what protection there is to keep people from just copying your material and posting it everywhere. I’d like to hear more about what kind of sales numbers e-book produces too. I really don’t know too much about the subject and I’d like to learn a lot more.

        • DaynaHester 10:57 pm on January 19, 2010 Permalink

          Thank you for the comments. Yes, I’m already acquiring my material for the e-book blog. Your questions are exactly the questions I have as well. I hope you continue to follow… and together our network strengthens.

    • jenku 6:56 am on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Did you ever consider to make your book available for free – via the web? I think you are completely right, Publishing Houses are interested in making a profit, agents as well. The question is did you write you book to make money? Or to tell a story?

      I have self-published my first novel as well, you can buy it at Amazon as a pocket book. But you can also download it for free. I chose this path because I want my story to be read, more than make money from it. I also believe, that if the readers like it, the money will come eventually. If you are good, you’ll eventually will work commercially as well – and then you get all the profit, even the share the publishers and agents take otherwise.

      i have already gained so much from having done so – not money, but I’ve met people I’d never met otherwise. And found friends. That’s worth quite a lot as well.

      • DaynaHester 7:46 am on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        My current goal is to launch a writing career that produces for me a decent income that would allow me to continue writing and yet feel financially productive. The release date for my book is April 1, 2010. I haven’t considered (yet) making the book available for free on the Internet but it will now be on my “marketing strategy” list for the reasons you stated. A previous comment from A.P. Stephens opened my eyes to Podiocasts. In addition, I did write my book to tell a story. And it is this latter reason that carries the most weight for me. My plan will be to do everything a “traditional publishing” house would do, combined with all the guidance I’ve learned via Twitter and launch the book with commercial aspirations. I hope to remain objective throughout the process and never sacrifice “the story” simply because I was searching for another dollar.

    • Sue Collier 12:52 pm on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Looking forward to following along, Dayna! Just a couple of tips: Set your publication date a few months after you can have finished books in hand. This will enable you to take advantage of prepublication reviews and create “buzz” in advance. As for giving away the books for free–plan to give away lots of free review copies. You can try both traditional book trade reviewers (as long as you truly self-publishing and don’t have Lulu or AuthorHouse listed on your book as the publisher!) and do an online blitz. Edit well, design beautifully–and your self-published book shouldn’t look any different than those next to it on the bookstores shelves. Oh–and with a “traditional” house, you’d still be looking at doing most of the marketing yourself. You go!!!

      • DaynaHester 1:02 pm on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I think you’ll be very happy with me when you read my next blog (I’d write it this afternoon but working hard on accepting content edit changes). That’s what’s amazing about this networking… we get to see how intuitive minds works. And sincerely hope that whatever knowledge gathers here branches out to create stores of success. Thanks for the great info and your following.

    • Dan Holloway 6:17 am on January 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Hey, Dayna – welcome to the self-publishing fold! What I’m particularly keen to know is a bit more about your book. I’m a self-publisher and I love it, but in my opinion it very much suits some types of book more than others (I wrote an article on that here: http://pattyjansen.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/should-i-self-publish/ ). You say you were told your book wasn’t commercial enough – when I was still looking for representation about 12 months ago I was told the same thing – and I decided I’d rather pursue the readers I wanted to write for than change how I wrote. So I got together with 20 writers and set up the Year Zero Writers collective for people who write contemporary literary fictiona nd want to take it straigjht to their readers.

      Last year I ran Free-e-day, an online celebration of indie culture. We had workshops that were very well attended, and form the basis of a database for independents:
      http://freeeday.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/the-diy-workshop/
      I hope you find some of the info useful – there are contributions from people like Mark Coker, CEO of Smashwords (which I thoroughly recommend).

      I’d also recommend you spend some time getting to know April Hamilton’s fantastic site publetariat

      See you around here and on twitter (@agnieszkasshoes)
      And for stats – I publish ALL my sales and download figures, along with all info on what I’ve done/has been written about me that month on the first of each month, as a resource for other selfpublisres. The latest is:
      http://agnieszkasshoes.blogspot.com/2010/01/hold-self-publisher-to-account-month-4.html
      And very best of luck!
      Dan

      • DaynaHester 6:22 am on January 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Amazing comment. I will take full advantage and look int all the resources you’ve mentioned. Thank you. Talk soon.

    • sybilnelson 2:22 pm on January 23, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Dayna,

      I will definitely follow your journey, I, too, am a first time author. I’ve had an agent for two years and have written eight complete novels. I’m still unpublished. I’ve sold the movie option to one of my books and I’m still unpublished. I’m going to give this publishing game six more months and then I’m going it alone.

      • DaynaHester 2:28 pm on January 23, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I’m excited to have you on-board. Stay tuned and look forward to more of your comments.

        • loulocke 2:37 pm on January 23, 2010 Permalink

          Dear Dayna,

          I too have just started to blog about my decisions to self-publish. So far, except for the celebrity husband, I think we have come to some similar conclusions!. I would love for you to check my blog out at http://mlouisalocke.wordpress.com/ to see if we end up having some similar experiences!

        • DaynaHester 4:24 pm on January 23, 2010 Permalink

          Dear Loulocke: Thank you for pointing out your blog. I see strong parallels in our journey thus far, especially with regard to defending our genre. I believe that one way a traditional publisher predicts whether a first-time novelist will be commercial is based on how popular the genre is within the book world; and quite honestly, I think it’s fair they use this tenet as a prediction of success. Publisher’s have develop some formulas in order to weigh high-risk situations (first-time novelists). I also think that this is one reason self-publishing is a great avenue for unestablished writers and genres. The problem, though, that the publisher saw (re a new spin on a genre) is the same problem the self-publishing author has to address. Our genre tells us what audience to target, and in many ways plots out the map to a successful marketing campaign.

          Anyhow, thanks for reaching out. I hope we “exchange blogs” again soon!

        • louise 3:42 pm on January 23, 2010 Permalink

          Fantastic blog; really glad to have found it.
          I hope you don’t mind, but I have a genuine question that I don’t know the answer to. What is an Indie writer? Is it the same a self-publisher, pod, etc?
          I’ve put this question to Twitter and lots of people have replied they don’t know either!

        • DaynaHester 4:07 pm on January 23, 2010 Permalink

          Dear Louise: I am so glad you asked! I’ve been sending out Twitter shouts that writers need to be informed, not only about the “self-publishing” process but also about the industry as a whole. I’m posting my next blog on Monday and it’s solely on this distinction of “indie” and “self-publisher.” So if you could bear with me, I’d like to lay it all out in detail in my blog on Monday: “Who Do You Think You Are?”

    • Jon Griffiith 6:51 pm on January 25, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I know absolutely nothing about traditional publishing. I have no idea what’s involved in the entire process, but I do know, is that if anyone is a talented writer, in any genre, in any industry, they can take their expertise to the web and build a following. Many times I have sat down with the goal of writing a novel, and ever time I am halted by the fact that I am not a novelist. So I stopped trying to think about being a novelist and decided I would just start writing about things that I know about. As a result, people read it, and community ensues. The coolest part is that as long as you are focused, and you have something of value to offer, people will offer “certificates of appreciation” so to speak. And the best part is that the gate-keepers who once controlled what the world would read are now unnecessary.

      • DaynaHester 7:00 pm on January 25, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        This is a great comment. And I think you bring out the distinction between “vanity press” and strong writers who are disciplined, know their audience and have the passion to drive their destiny in the world of art. I hope you check back in for my next blog. take care.

    • Jim Bernheimer 6:34 am on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Well if your abducted child is a werewolf and the kidnapper is a vampire, you’re guaranteed to be published! Sorry couldn’t help it. Best of luck with you self-publishing journey. I’ve self-published and been published by a small press. With the small press, I was able to start doing signings in Barnes and Noble bookstores (although Createspace has since signed a deal with Ingrams to get their titles into the distribution chain). One of the downsides to self-publishing is that you really have to work it to get into the brick and mortar stores to do signings.

      • DaynaHester 7:42 am on January 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I would love (as well as some of the readers) to know what kind of costs have you put out with the small press? I can also be e-mailed at daynahestr@aol.com

  • DaynaHester 12:45 pm on January 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    The Resources for Starting Down the Self-Publishing Path 

    Welcome.  Please don’t hestitate to critique, suggest, advise and/or comment.  You will be heard.  I will follow-up on any leads that contribute to the success of the self-publising/indie author world.  I’m dedicating this site to help inform writers about the self-publishing path.  Does it work?  Will your work be stigmatized?  How will you promote the work?  How does the book selling world respond to self-publishers?  How much time does it take?  How much money is reasonable to invest?   

    To start with, if my self-publishing journey ends in a success, then the Ford Motor Company deserves a huge THANK YOU from all self-publishers/PODs that benefit from my experience.

    Question:  What is “success” in this context?

    Answer:  I will measure my success based on my ability to do the following:

    • Honing in on my target audience and learning how to effectively reach out to them.
    • Getting independent bookstores to shelf my book.
    • Getting book review magazines and journals to accept my pre-submission (e.g. Library Journal).
    • Getting my book shelved in libraries.
    • Getting my book reviewed by credible online book reviewers who are willing to blog and post reviews on Amazon, B&N and other high-exposure sites.
    • Learning how to set up and successfully promote book signings.
    • Getting my book as a recommended read at online book social sites (e.g. Goodreads.com).
    • Getting my book listed on e-book sites (e.g. Smashwords.com).
    • Getting my book submitted for awards and/or recognitions within my genre.
    • FOLLOW UP ON LEADS THAT OTHER SELF-PUBLISHED/POD AUTHORS RECOMMEND IN ORDER TO REFINE WHAT IT TAKES TO SUCCESSFULLY PROMOTE A SELF-PUBLISHED BOOK.

    Said another way, create a platform wherein my novel will be given the opportunity to launch (release date March 1, 2010).  Will this ensure that my novel will be a commercial success?  Absolutely not.  But… my readers will be able to find the book and from there, they will dictate my success.

    Question:  Why Ford Motor Company?

    Answer:  I think it was January or February of 2009 when I heard President Obama say, in response to the auto industry failing, “Ford is an icon for what the American industry stands for.  They will not fail.”  So… I took a chunk of my tax return funds and bought 3,000 shares of Ford stock at $1.78.  It’s gone up… a lot; I’ll leave it at that.

    And… why… do we care?  Because I have spent, to date, $8,448.00 on self-publishing my book.  All of which, thanks to ScottTrade.com, came from my Ford stock.

    Question:  Are you crazy?  Why so much?

    Answer:  I will explain in my next blog how I determined to take the Self-Publishing route.  But for now, let me leave you with my logic in this regard:  If I do all the things a publisher does to promote/market a book (minus industry connections), then in theory I should be able to do for my book what a smaller publishing house would do.  And if I cannot do what (in relative proportion) a traditional publisher can do, then Self-Publisers/PODs, we are being taken for a ride… because financially doing it the right way will not be an excuse.  Instead, there’s obstacles in our way within the industry. 

    So I remind you, if my journey is a success, please extend a thank you to Ford.  And then of course revolt that it costs this darn much!

    Thanks for reading and I hope learning of my experience works into your own success.

     
    • Eisley Jacobs 6:26 pm on January 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Can’t wait to read the next… and next… and next…

    • Nettie Thomson 8:35 am on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      This will be a very interesting blog to follow. I have decided to try mainstream publication first when – not if – I finish my novel but self-publication is certainly a route I will try. Good luck to you – and to Ford!

    • Krissi Dallas 9:25 am on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I am you only a year later… and it’s been an exciting and rewarding journey for me! I, too, look forward to following your progress.

      • DaynaHester 10:02 am on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        How inspiring! Please comment on anything I can do to better the chances during the process… As much as I want my book to succeed, I want reach out to Authors who want to learn from our progress! Take care! Dayna

    • Jeff Power 10:21 am on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’m very interested in the outcome, especially the e-book portion. Good luck!

      • DaynaHester 10:56 am on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I’m currently accumulating/researching info re e-books and how they will play into marketing my book. I’ll blog the info probably next week or soon after. Thx!

    • Jeff Power 11:08 am on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’m very interested in Technology, Copyright, Piracy, Media, How creators get compensated, etc
      E-books are obviously the future. However many authors are afraid to publish in DRM protected e-books let alone DRM free e-books due to piracy. On the other side of the coin I believe people will gravitate towards books that they can own and use freely without DRM and with the support of the First Sale Doctrine.
      Also I’m hearing that authors musicians and other creators are having a hard time getting compensated(fairly) through sites like Amazon and Apple.
      I’m certain that some form of self publishing will be an avenue for creators to receive the compensation they deserve.
      E-book publishing may be a way to cut costs and contribute more to the Author than having all the middlemen with their hands in your pocket.
      More control with creators has to be a good thing.
      Looking forward to hearing your first hand experience with it all.

      • DaynaHester 11:12 am on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        More control for the creators… absolutely is a good thing. Thanks for info! I’d love to reach out to you again on the upcoming e-book blog. Thank you for your time and for sharing your knowledge. Dayna

    • Suki M 12:00 pm on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Congratulations on getting the blog set up! Hope you become a successful self-published author in 2010 :)

      On a more serious note, the war between the open-source/piracy/”free information” activists and those who want value for their artistic creations is ON full force. I wonder what repercussions this will have on the publishing industry as a whole, and on self-publishing in particular.

      @freelancerwoman from Twitter here :) .

      • DaynaHester 12:07 pm on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I’m completely with you…wondering myself about the repercussions re the evolution of e-books. I plan to delve into the debate and apply it to my blog on e-books in a couple of weeks. If you have links or want to share your knowledge/opinion on the subject, would love to hear it! dayna

    • Katie Love 6:14 pm on January 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      If anyone can make us proud, it’s you girl!
      After one week of serious marketing to get Cubicide in bookstores, I am exhausted, depleted and cranky. And I love it all at the same time. There are OODLES of obstacles, and I am a bulldozer. So many glitches, it’s ridiculous. But, I still picture us meeting in some city for drinks after our book signings, damn it. Visualize-stay in action-stay focused-and for me, I think I’ll add getting laid. haha.
      YOU GO GIRL. PROUD of you and EVERYONE should buy your book! :)

    • Ingrid King 3:43 pm on January 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’m looking forward to following your blog. As a recently self-published author, I love connecting with other indie authors who are determined to make this model work for them. I’ll look foward to hearing why you decided to self-publish – it seems that for every self-published book, there’s a different story behind it.

      • DaynaHester 3:54 pm on January 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I plan on blogging this Monday why I chose the self-publshing route. I’m excited to make the connection as well. Take care. Dayna

    • A.P. Stephens 6:32 pm on January 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Glad to see you are going the Self-Pub route as well. After I played the Find-an-Agent game for months and months on end, I decided to do Self-Pub.

      Takes lots of research and determination, but well worth it once it gets going. I chose to go through Lightning Source for my POD. Lightning Source is a great way to get your book into physical bookstores and different websites, but you have to provide your own ISBN, cover art, formatting, etc.

      But using LS, to me, seems to make you more credible as an indie, since you get distribution through Ingram. This has allowed me to do book signings at local bookstores, get my book sold to various libraries, etc.

      You tend to learn more about Self-Pub by going through LS, learning about DPI, CYMK for covers, formatting, Book Returns, etc.

      Another fantastic tool to use is Podiobooks.com. Here you can release an audio version of your book, that way you can build an audience for your work. It is released in a podcast style, and you release it for free, this way to entice folks to check your stuff out. And when the time comes for your book, the listeners will buy it to show their support. Many Podiobook authors have landed Pub contracts with big name houses and one has made the NYT Best Seller list. Def something all indie fiction authors should check out. My audio book is here >> http://www.podiobooks.com/title/the-white-shadow-saga-the-stolen-moon-of-londor

      Good luck to you. Hope you do well out in the indie world. If anyone has questions, please feel free to hit me up.

      A.P. Stephens
      http://www.apstephens.com
      Author of The Stolen Moon of Londor
      contact @ apstephens.com

      • DaynaHester 8:39 am on January 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for sharing your knowledge! My next blog will address the “Find-an-Agent” game; I assure you, my tale will be slightly untraditional from many self-publishers. I did not know of Podicasts. I’ve added it to my blog list… another item on my checklist to reasearch for my own marketing… and I hope all my self-publishing peers. Take care. Dayna

    • A.P. Stephens 8:31 pm on January 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Lightning Source is a nice way to go for indie authors. More control, more options to get into libraries and stores, more experience learned there.

      I also recommend Podiobooks.com to get your work out there. Do a free podcast version of your book and watch your fanbase grow. Giving out the free content assures you of sales when your book comes out. Great community and some authors have got pub contracts out it.

      Here’s to you on your self pub journey.

  • DaynaHester 10:48 pm on January 13, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Hello world! 

    Welcome to WordPress.com. This is your first post. Edit or delete it and start blogging!

     
    • George H. Sirois 8:12 pm on January 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Great job on heading out to get your voice heard! Will we know on this blog more about what the book is about and how you came up with your ideas…?

      • DaynaHester 8:21 pm on January 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the comment! I’m also on Authorsden.com, where you can preview some of the book’s excerpts. I have to say, I’m so consumed with the “hurdles,” “obstacles,” and in my opinion, blatant “segregation” (by the traditional publishing world) of the self-published writer, I plan on dedicating this blog to my journey into the publsihing world. This is my reasoning: Good writers are out there, and they deserve to be published so their readers can appreciate them. Sadly, the traditional publishing world is suffering… yet they’re not looking down to find us. I strongly think they should… I hope my journey proves this to them.

        If Authorsden doesn’t satisfy you re my book, please respond for more info. Thank you for taking the time to ask! Dayna

    • Michelle 11:03 am on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Dayna, What an interesting journey! As you are well aware, the publishing industry is in a state of massive change now, as the balance of power shifts from publishers to authors. Now that any author can offer their book on almost any bookstore at a very low cost (thanks to digital publishing), it’s really up to you. If you have a good story and a strong platform, why not try it out yourself? Good for you.

      Publishers invest in their books – and if they don’t see a return, then they don’t invest. I’m a publisher, hence I also invest – but with digital publishing the overhead is lower – so I (and others) can take risks the big guys won’t. You are just like any independent press – investing in yourself – so go for it!

      Your (and any writer’s stories) are meant to be told and read – and they shall. I commend you on your efforts, and wish you nothing but the best!

      Michelle Halket
      ireadiwrite Publishing

      • DaynaHester 11:08 am on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your reassuring and supportive comments. I think it’s important to understand how the publishing world is evolving into a successful platform for authors at any level of their career. I hope you continue to post comments. Your knowledge and guidance is extremely valuable.

        • Jennifer McFadden 10:05 am on June 23, 2010 Permalink

          Hi Dayna, thanks for posting your comments! I have published a children’s book with a POD, Author House. From all of the investigating I have done, having Baker and Taylor distribute your novel to bookstores and libraries in the hard copy is the best way to be taken seriously as an author. I haven’t gone that route since I used that book to get my feet wet in the world of publishing, but I do know that it costs $2100.00 to have them post information about your book. I’m sure that everyone already knows this, but if not, creating a website and a fansite of your name on Facebook is one of the best ways of getting your name and novel out to our readers.

    • Jennifer McFadden 10:10 am on June 23, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you for posting your self-publishing journey. I will look for your book and buy it.

      Jennifer McFadden

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